Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!pacbell.com!pacbell!well!tenney From: mnemonic@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Mike Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.news Subject: Re: Professional Crackers (was Re: How effective can the SS hope to be?) Keywords: anarchy, drugs, satan, communism, assassination Message-ID: <20813@well.sf.ca.us> Date: 17 Sep 90 14:13:28 GMT References: <44708@apple.Apple.COM> <1990Sep17.032934.15238@cs.rochester.edu> Sender: tenney@well.sf.ca.us Reply-To: mnemonic@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Mike Godwin) Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Lines: 25 Approved: comp-org-eff-news@well.sf.ca.us In article <1990Sep17.032934.15238@cs.rochester.edu> yamauchi@cs.rochester.edu (Brian Yamauchi) writes: > >I'm curious whether there is any evidence that these professional >intercorporate crackers even exist. Unfortunately, this is one of >these areas (like political assassination) where if it is done right, >there won't be any evidence. I was at a bookstore on Saturday that had a $55 book called COMPUTER CRIME (it may be a textbook). In looking through the book, which is aimed at system administrators, MIS guys, and the heads of small businesses, I noticed no references at all to the kinds of young explorers we often "hackers" or "crackers." Instead, the the book seemed based on the a priori proposition that ALL of the computer crime that sysadmins would be dealing with would be of the intercorporate or disgruntled employee sort. The book's copyright date was 1989. --Mike Mike Godwin, UT Law School |"If the doors of perception were cleansed mnemonic@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | every thing would appear to man as it is, (512) 346-4190 | infinite." | --Blake