Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!pacbell.com!pacbell!well!tenney From: brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.news Subject: Re: Busted for "possession" Message-ID: <20817@well.sf.ca.us> Date: 18 Sep 90 14:58:24 GMT References: <16013@s.ms.uky.edu> <4628@graphite18.UUCP> <1990Sep17.105918@bert.llnl.gov> Sender: tenney@well.sf.ca.us Organization: IR Lines: 28 Approved: comp-org-eff-news@well.sf.ca.us In article <1990Sep17.105918@bert.llnl.gov> howell@bert.llnl.gov (Louis Howell) writes: > In the discussion of the Rose case, several people have glibly tossed > off the phrase "possession of proprietary source code" in contexts that > make it sound like a terrible crime. Just out of curiousity, what law > is actually being broken here? Is it some perversion of copyright law, > an implied contract, or what? Usually, copyright law. As an example, an alleged Princeton graduate student allegedly broke into an NYU computer a couple of years ago, using the sendmail debug mode bug. He (allegedly) copied lots of proprietary AT&T, Berkeley, and NYU source code. Computer trespass aside, he (allegedly) violated copyright. In contrast, if NYU had mailed him the sources, NYU would be violating its contracts (licenses) with AT&T and Berkeley, as well as copyright. Breach of contract isn't too serious, though. > Wouldn't it > be better if these cases were handled through civil law at the expense > of the company which had been wronged? You're right that it depends on the scale. The government should stick its nose into prosecuting someone like Markus Hess; it's just a waste of time when a prankster makes an illegal copy of Chutes & Ladders for his IBM PC. I have no idea where the (alleged) Princeton case might fall on this scale. ---Dan