Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!pacbell.com!pacbell!well!tenney From: tenney@well.sf.ca.us (Glenn S. Tenney) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.news Subject: Re: Search Warrants & Organizations (was Re: Missing mission) Message-ID: <9009261116.AA07629@panix> Date: 26 Sep 90 11:16:25 GMT Lines: 36 Approved: comp-org-eff-news@well.sf.ca.us To: tenney@well.sf.ca.us [If there is an alias for eff.news, I don't know it. Sorry.] Mike Godwin states that the Federal Tort Claims Act bars actions against the federal government in cases like Steve Jackson's. I don't have either the knowledge or the inclination to disagree. (pre-disclaimer. I'm not a lawyer.) It seems to me that you could make a good case that this makes the FTCA unconstitutional, on the grounds that it _effectively_ destroys all protections under the first, fourth, and various other amendments. Now I don't know the history of decisions based on effect rather than intent, but here's one _very significant_ case: Brown v. Board of Ed. (I think you're all familiar with that one :-). Specifically, while the intent of segragation was (according to its proponents and apologists) not to violate the constitution (I mean both the original document and the amendments), its practical effect undoubtedly violated many rights. Also, those of you who followed the Souter nomination hearings may recall his discussion of Miranda. (I must say I found his comments, on this and other issues, to be tremendously encouraging.) He stated that the court had _not_ created a new right, but rather that it enacted a _practical means of protecting_ a pre-existing right. Striking down the FTCA (or various sections?) would be a much less proactive example of this same philosophy. Clearly, Souter's is not the only opinion, and it may not even be commonly held. But _I_ certainly like it. :-) --- Alexis Rosen cmcl2!panix!alexis ps- If Mike (or anyone else) knows for a fact the history of this type of view, I'd love to hear about it.