Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ucsd!ucbvax!unisoft!fai!sequent!jimp From: jimp@sequent.UUCP (James Pilcher) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Evidence (was Re: Musing on Constitutionality) Message-ID: <43541@sequent.UUCP> Date: 4 Oct 90 19:35:08 GMT References: <8306@helios.TAMU.EDU> <26938:Sep1814:48:2390@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> <4572@qip.UUCP> <1990Sep20.221955.10879@spectrum.CMC.COM> <6657@sugar.hackercorp.com> Reply-To: jimp@crg1.UUCP (James Pilcher) Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc Lines: 32 In article <6657@sugar.hackercorp.com> karl@sugar.hackercorp.com (Karl Lehenbauer) writes: >In article <1990Sep20.221955.10879@spectrum.CMC.COM> lars@spectrum.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen) writes: >>By analogy, it may not be unreasonable to hold the "publisher" (i.e. the >>owner/SYSOP) jointly liable with the poster for whatever appears on the >>bulletin board. > >>Indeed, this may require that the SYSOP not allow unmoderated discussion >>except within closed user groups whose members have all signed a pledge >>of responsible behaviour and are all known to the SYSOP. > >>Seems pretty reasonable to me ... > >If this were the case, it would be the end of Usenet. Further, it would >have a chilling effect on free speech via bulletin boards. As a sysop, >I would have to be very careful to never allow anything out that was >in the least bit controversial, and would always want to err on the side of >not allowing a message to go out unless I was really sure there was no chance >of me getting in trouble for it. > >Shouldn't the poster of the message be accountable for its contents? > >Or by your reasoning, shouldn't the phone company have to listen to *all* the >phone conversations going on at any time to make sure nothing illicit was >being said, done or planned? They tried this in Eastern Europe, you know. > While I agree with you that holding sysop responsible for everything would be a disaster, you should note that a phone line is SUPPOSED to be private, whereas a net is assumed to be public. Bulletin boards have been misused in all kinds of ways; should a sysop who runs a board for child molesters be free of all responsibility? This has happened, here in Portland, by the way.