Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!dimacs.rutgers.edu!mips!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!umich!yale!cmcl2!panix!alexis From: alexis@panix.uucp (Alexis Rosen) Newsgroups: comp.periphs Subject: Re: ESDI vs. SCSI for 486 Disks? Keywords: ESDI SCSI Disk Controller Message-ID: <1990Oct2.081744.6349@panix.uucp> Date: 2 Oct 90 08:17:44 GMT References: <9678@ur-cc.UUCP> <14174@netcom.UUCP> Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY Lines: 41 In article <14174@netcom.UUCP> feustel@netcom.UUCP (David Feustel) writes: >Get an IDE controller and hang two (conner) 200 meg drives on it. >Each drive has its own 64k buffer and the transfer rate between drive >and cpu is up to 4mbyte/sec. You then will have no problems running >any software that expects an MFM controller since they have the same >interface. This is really bogus. The connors drives are 3.5" mechanisms. So their transfer rate is really lousy compared to 5.25" disks. Seek's pretty good, but not best. (Transfer's respectable for a 3.5"- it's not poorly-built.) I can't tell you much about PC host adaptors, but if you want really fast: 1) Make sure you get two disks (or more) so you can share the load. Make sure that, at the very least, swap is on a different drive than your most commonly-used data files. 2) SCSI is unquestionably the interface of the future. For now? Well, it looks pretty damn good. The best drive I know of in your range is the 400MB drive from Imprimis (Seagate). But, you might well do better with two 170MB drives. (These are all Wrens.) It really depends on your situation. If you really want speed at a decent price, get two Wren Runners for a total of 600MB. They can be had for about $1800 apiece or less. The 400 is about $2600- more expensive, and a little slower than the Runners, since the 400 is a half-height mechanism. 3) The Wren Runner has the fastest true average seek time of any mechanism I know. They claim 10.7ms, I say 11-12 depending on the unit. Of course, if you really have a need for speed, the new Imprimis Elites, starting at 1.5GB, are incredible. Still hard to come by though. Almost forgot- most of these Wrens have small caches. In general, you'd do better by putting more memory in your unix box than by buffering the disk. In particular, you can throw on a good 16MB in SIMMs for ~$1000 these days, plus the price of a memory board. Much cheaper than the cache cards I've seen. Don't forget that you could always use this memory as a buffer cache. Also, you'll need to make sure that your unix will talk to your controller card. --- Alexis Rosen {cmcl2,apple}!panix!alexis alexis@panix.uucp