Xref: utzoo comp.unix.ultrix:4706 comp.periphs.scsi:1142 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!math.lsa.umich.edu!caen!paul From: paul@caen.engin.umich.edu (Paul Killey) Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: ANy joy with 3rd party SCSI disks on DS3100? Message-ID: <1990Sep28.175454.18103@caen.engin.umich.edu> Date: 28 Sep 90 17:54:54 GMT References: <1990Sep25.083654.9716@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au> <14630@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1990Sep25.233255.1551@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au> Sender: news@caen.engin.umich.edu (CAEN Netnews) Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Lines: 40 Other scsi problems include not having the switches set correctly on the drive that determine powering the scsi termination. If that is goofed up, so is the scsi bus, and you get the problem where you can't see the disk (or much of anything) on the bus. decs are more susceptible to that than are other brands. We run maxtor drives here (8380, 4380, 8760, lxt-200) on decs. Also have had luck with micropolis and cdc or seagate or whatever they are now. I've noticed that the bits controlling different read ahead/caching parameters seem to be different on different drives. I hacked up my own formatter. When you format your drives, you might as well change the zone (for bad block forwarding) to be a track, and not a cylinder. I think the sun formatter does this for you automagically. However, I noticed that formatting disks on a sun 3 (emulex whatever scsi controller) was kind of a loser, at least for running disks on the decs, because of other parameters it (silently) changes. rzdisk on 3.1 is a no-op for this, because you change the params with the -c thing, but then it goes ahead and ignores the modified params and formats the disk with the old (unchanged) saved params. I am going to do an exhaustive search of all scsi option combos and plot some results. I am still mystified as to why fast bus and fast disk do not add up to fast throughput. While I'm at it, changing disk from synch to asynch will fix some problems, but the real fix is usually getting newer firmware that fixes a bug involved in some size data transfers. E.g. level 9 dumps would hang, because of this, because of how dump would be seeking around and reading bits and pieces to see what should be saved. level 0 dumps did not hang because dump knew it had to save everything anyway, and skipped that part. Sometimes turning off cacheing is also a fix for that. --paul