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From: scott@NIC.GAC.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Commodore at FCC
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Date: 27 Sep 90 19:50:10 GMT
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   scott> Recall, that's list.  The best educational discounts run at about
   scott> $2995.  No, that is _not_ a misprint.  Under $3000.  That's why
   scott> Jay Carlson is concerned about whether he needs an A3000 or not . . .

	   But for $3000, your 105 MB drive is filled almost to capacity isn't
   it?  I mean, looking at the list of standard and extended software posted
   on comp.sys.next, I don't think the $3000, 105 MB machine even comes with
   any language compiler.  And you just can't download something like gcc, 
   because you don't have anything to compile it with.  Also, isn't the 
   340 MB upgrade something like $2000 or more?  I'd say that even though
   Amigas don't have UNIX yet, at least they have room on the disk for some
   programming languages and utilities.

That is true.  _But_ you can get the regular utilities for the cost of
media, from NeXT.  I'd assume this means you can just grab it from
someone else, too.

I have run a development system in <95M on NeXT, incl. swap space, which
gave me ~220M free for disk management (those opticals do take a long time
to copy, now, don't they?)  This, of course, blew away most of the
non-unix documentation, lot's of this, that and the other thing.  I'd not
want to write on this machine (though you could easily pop in the OD
to use the other stuff, that's not really an option with floppies).

Then again, I'd not like to write on it in _any_ case.  I'd rather
be programming.  To sum up, I think you _could_ run a decent
development environment on a 105M NeXTStation.  I would not want to,
I'd rather have somewhere around 600M.

But then again, I'd not want to run a PC, a Mac, or an Amiga (or an
ST, to cover everyone) with less than 200M.  Note that I said
_want_.  I know that I couldn't _afford_ that solution, no more
than I can afford a 600M NeXT . . .

And, of course, you're forgetting that the NeXTStation has _one_
standard developer's tool included (remember, media costs for others) -
the Terminal vt100 terminal emulator :-).

scott hess
scott@gac.edu
Independant NeXT Developer	(Stuart and the new Terminal)
NeXT Campus Consultant		(Not much, really)
GAC Undergrad			(Horrid.  Simply Horrid.  I mean the work!)