Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!emory!mephisto!mcnc!thorin!hatteras!mueller From: mueller@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Carl Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: MAC SE has something HUMAN! Message-ID: <16417@thorin.cs.unc.edu> Date: 30 Sep 90 21:04:56 GMT References: <31417@nigel.ee.udel.edu> <5950@eklektik.UUCP> <9583@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> <13555@wehi.dn.mu.oz> Sender: news@thorin.cs.unc.edu Reply-To: mueller@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Carl Mueller) Organization: University Of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Lines: 31 In article <13555@wehi.dn.mu.oz> BAXTER_A@wehi.dn.mu.oz writes: [... deleted stuff about the Mac SE slideshow ...] >The story behind this is very funny. As you know, the mac roms are a pair of >chips. Would you believe that one half of that ROM space is taken up by that >slide show? And it's not all just on one chip. That is a real bone of >contention amongst mac owners who are forced to pay for a _new motherboard_ >every time they burn out a rom (which is fairly common). > >Regards Alan I think you've distorted the story a bit. The Mac SE uses the 68000, so therefore requires 16 bits at a time from its memory chips. Each ROM chip supplies eight bits, so two are always required. The Mac Plus used 64K roms, giving a total of 128K for the system. When the system was upgraded for the SE, they overflowed this space, and went to the next larger size (128K roms -> 256K space). It turns out they didn't really need twice the space, since the system ROM routines didn't double in size, so there was room left for the slide show. If my memory serves, the show consists only of two coarsely dithered images. Even if stored uncompressed, they would only be 22K a piece (512*342/8). As a sidenote, I think the latest Macs have 512K of ROM. Anybody found anything interesting in them? We now return you to your regularly scheduled comp.sys.amiga :-). -Carl Mueller (mueller@cs.unc.edu)