Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!pollux.usc.edu!papa From: papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: VT-100 Emulators & ONLINE! Message-ID: <27360@usc.edu> Date: 3 Oct 90 06:16:42 GMT References: <31390@nigel.ee.udel.edu> <26febe2f-2cef.1comp.sys.amiga-1@tronsbox.xei.com> <59740@bbn.BBN.COM> Sender: news@usc.edu Organization: Felsina Software, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 37 Nntp-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu In article <59740@bbn.BBN.COM> cosell@bbn.com (Bernie Cosell) writes: |bleys@tronsbox.xei.com (Bill Cavanaugh) writes: | |}>I agree with everything Marco said! He may be biased, but he's right |}>when he tells you to steer clear of ONLINE! if you need decent VT-100 |}>emulation. ... | |}I'm not biased, and I seldom agree with anything Marco says, but he (and |}Cal) hit the nail on the head this time. | |Could one of you folks mail me or post or something a specific (useful) |thing that online! doesn't do right? I've used all of the 'big 4' |[vlt, vt100, Online! and AT3] to dial into my SUN workstation at BBN |from my Amiga at home, and generally the VT100 emulation is just not a |problem. My only criticism of Online!'s vt100 emulation is that it is |SLOW, but in terms of 'decent vt-100 emulation', Online seems to do |OK. What *is* it that you folks do with your comm programs that so |clearly show up Online's problems? Online! breaks in things as simple as 'vi'. It breaks at the end of lines and end of screens big time, especially when a scroll is involved. It breaks when using "origin mode" for scrolling. The end result is that your cursor will be at some spot that is incorrect and if you continue to enter text, it will go in the wrong place. You'll end up having to use ^L all the time to refresh the screen. As I said before, things really fall apart when using a DEC editor like EVE or EDT. In that case you can really forget about editing anything. Incredibly enough, it even breaks when using emacs (and one has to really foul up to do that :-) [Please consider that Online! bashing by a competitor like us could be considered biased, though I urge the disbelievers to try out a simple test like vttest to see for themselves. End of bashing. Back to your regular programming. Armor on :^] -- Marco -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Xerox sues somebody for copying?" -- David Letterman -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=