Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!udel!haven!adm!smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Woz giveth, Scully taketh away Message-ID: <13992@smoke.BRL.MIL> Date: 2 Oct 90 03:32:40 GMT References: <181@alchemy.UUCP> Organization: U.S. Army Ballistic Research Laboratory, APG, MD. Lines: 24 In article <181@alchemy.UUCP> bbs@alchemy.UUCP (BBS Administration) writes: >I ... want to ... obtain an understanding of why the Mac is such a hated >machine by people who are fans of the Apple II. Here are what I think are the main reasons: 1. The Macintosh is perceived as aimed at "appliance users" rather than hobbyists and other do-it-yourselfers. 2. Programming the Macintosh for simple applications is much harder than programming the Apple II in AppleSoft BASIC. This of course is also an argument against the IIGS's desktop environment. 3. Macintoshes were not expandable until recently, while all Apple IIs except the //c (and //c+) supported add-on peripherals, simple controls via the game-port connector, etc. 4. Macintoshes did not provide color displays until recently. 5. Macintoshes were targeted at business applications rather than personal computing. 6. Apple's emphasis on the Macintosh at the expense of the Apple II line crippled commercial support for the Apple IIs that people had purchased. Note that I'm not making these arguments myself, merely trying to convey what I think the most common reasons are that have any validity. (There are undoubtedly some invalid reasons too.)