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From: cbdougla@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Collin Broad Douglas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple - IBM
Message-ID: <1990Oct3.074657.29945@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu>
Date: 3 Oct 90 07:46:57 GMT
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Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
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In article <0.apple.net2@pro-grouch> lhaider@pro-grouch.cts.com (Laer Haider) writes:
>In-Reply-To: message from dchun@aludra.usc.edu
>
>        Schools are still hooked on the apple // computers.  They use the
>apple computers because of the library of software that they already have.
>I should know.....my mom is a teacher.
>
>        I personally use an IBM Compatible 286 machine (soon to get a 386 8-)
>and I look at the apple // series as expensive toys.  The //gs I view as a
>really expesive toy.....sorry if I insult you, but those are just my views.
>I used to be an apple person, until I got an IBM PC (yes the original) from an
>uncle.  Ever since then, I've been an IBM person.  I just found the IBM DOS a
>lot easier to use, and the computer to be more powerful than the apple //
>series
>
>that existed at the time.  It is still my opinion that the IBM is a far better
>machine than the apple // line; with it's serious competitor being the Mac.
>
>yet......boy is that a bitch....:-(
>
>Rick - EK
>
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  Opinions vary.  I personally wouldn't trade my souped up GS for any kind of
  IBM clone.  286's and 65816's are both 16 bit processors but the 65816 is
  a better processor (as far as I'm concerned).

You idea of the Apple // being a toy is probably pretty dependant on the
kind of hardware you have.  How about an Apple //e with an 8Mhz zip
chip and 3 megs of RAM, a 60 meg HD with a DMA SCSI cardrunning Publish It III 
That would
really smoke any 286 machine (I've got some benchmarks of you'd like to
see them -- kinda interesting).

I do a lot of things on my GS that can't be done effectively on an IBM.
I guess it all just depends on what you want it for.

As far as just simply being a better machine.  Well, I've always disliked
Intel based machines (I really do have reasons but it's long and drawn out)
 
 I like IBM R&D (just look at the RISC 6000.  WOW!) but Intel isn't my
 cup if tea (neither is Microsoft for that matter.)

We could trade ideas in mail if you'd like but it might not be a good idea
to do it in Comp.sys.apple2.

       Collin Douglas

       cbdougla@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu