Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!snorkelwacker!mintaka!dcw From: dcw@lcs.mit.edu (David C. Whitney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: New (Still Unofficial but Everyone Knows They Exist) Macs Message-ID: <1990Oct4.173154.26579@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> Date: 4 Oct 90 17:31:54 GMT References: <9009290715.aa09290@generic.UUCP> <1990Oct1.195457.24180@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <24720@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> Sender: daemon@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu (Lucifer Maleficius) Organization: MIT Spoken Language Systems Group Lines: 65 In article <24720@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> bb0@beach.cis.ufl.edu () writes: >In article <1990Oct1.195457.24180@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> dcw@lcs.mit.edu (David C. Whitney) writes: >>GS owners should cry the least... > >And why shouldn't this GS user cry? I've sunk well over $2000 into my system >(a good bit less than most). I have a huge box of //e games and quite a >few GS games. Now Apple wants me to junk this machine(who is going to buy >a GS now?) and buy a Mac? This Mac will not run any of the nice games that >I've bought for the GS, I'll have to buy new ones. Will the //e card allow >the Mac to run my DOS 3.3 things? I rather doubt it. It will have better >graphics which would be nice for GIF conversions. And what about sound? >I don't know about this, but can the Mac approach the sound quality of the GS? >Bowie Bailey bb0@beach.cis.ufl.edu Um, $2000 isn't a big investment. I've sunk more in, and I still haven't put in as much as many. (I'm talking total investment here: CPU, 3.5, 5.25, screen, HD, RAM, AWGS, APW, and *time* - $3000 to $3500 perhaps) Your huge box of //e games should run using the //e emulator that will be available. Bad argument here. The GS games are a good argument, but I wouldn't use the small investment in games as a pivoting factor on my decision to buy a new machine. (I personally don't play games much at all, so the game argument doesn't hold a lot of water for me anyway.) Why do you think you won't be able to run your DOS 3.3 stuff? Presuming you can attach a 5.25 drive to the machine, I can't imagine what the problem would be. A //e emulation can't be partial...either the card does or does not emulate a //e. By the way, Apple doesn't care what you do regarding keeping the old and buying the new. They aren't *making* you do anything. If you don't want the new one, don't buy it. Your current setup won't stop working just because there's a snazzier box on the market. Mac plusses still work. (This by the way is the big argument I use in many cases. To completely go off on a tangent, I think the censoring-happy public is full of it. If you don't like something, don't buy it.) Apple is not going to tell current GS owners to drop dead. Why would they stop making improvements to the OS? Look at it this way. Schools are the big owners of Apple //s and //GSs. They are NOT about to go out and dump these to buy macs. They will buy the Macs when they have money and everyone on the board feels it's time to get MORE stuff (note, not NEW stuff). The schools will probably NEVER throw away their //s. Apple realizes this and continues to supply basic service (something's better than nothing...) Don't tell me that Apple's been doing NOTHING since the GS came out. There's been a steady (albeit slow) stream of stuff coming forth. They KNOW the GS isn't going vanish. They won't stop the trickle... The Mac's sound is indeed not as good as the GS for only the fact that the GS has 32 oscillators (to paired into 15 voices and 2 for system use) while the mac has only 4 voices. Aside from that, they're pretty equal (I think). Each can only do 8 bits/sample. If I had control of things (ha!) I'd have put an Ensoniq in the Mac some time ago. Enough already. -- Dave Whitney | I wrote Z-Link and BinSCII. Send me bug Computer Science MIT 1990 | reports. I need a job. Send me an offer. dcw@goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu | My opinions, you hear? MINE! dcw@athena.mit.edu | "Isn't this where..."