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From: rrd@hpfinote.HP.COM (Ray Depew x2419)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: FLIGHT SIMULATORS for the ST.
Message-ID: <15330026@hpfinote.HP.COM>
Date: 28 Sep 90 18:17:45 GMT
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From  / MV010320@NDSUVM1.BITNET /  6:22 pm  Sep 25, 1990 /:

> What is the best flight sim program for the ST.  Does Sublogic support the
> st with their flight Simulators?  

Definitely Flight Simulator II, from SubLogic.  Consider this an unequivocal
endorsement.  And if you get tired of FS2, then buy Jet from them.

SubLogic also has scenery disks to go with FSII and Jet.  Awesome.  To really
 get into it, find a copy of Charles Gulick's "Flying Flight Simulator," and 
set it in your lap while you "play."  (Hey, man, this ain't no game!)

> Also where would I go about getting
> software to emulate the PC? 

Stay away from PC Ditto II.  The mfr. went bankrupt.  Try PC Speed, or ??? the
other one.  I don't have sources.  (BTW, our PC Ditto II worked fine, once we
got it working.  But what a pain to get to that point!)

> And hardware or software to emulate the mac?

Definitely Spectre GCR, from Gadgets By Small, 40 W. Littleton Blvd., 
Littleton, Colorado.  (303)791-6098.  You have to obtain the Mac ROMs
separately.  Spectre is an elegant hack. I giggle with delight every time I
fire mine up.  GBSmall is a terrific little company, and I wish them all the
success in the world.  (They need all the luck they can get, now that Big 
Green Apple is trying to shut down the ROM pipeline.  Buy your ROMs *NOW*!)

> and how good are these emulations.

Spectre GCR is fantastic, see my gushing above.  Liek I said, PC Ditto II
worked fine, but it was a bear to get going, and doesn't fit very well in
our classic 1040ST case.  I have no experience with the other emulators.

Spectre GCR lets you read/write Mac floppies directly in the ST.  It also
lets you use hard disks and printers.  You need a monochrome monitor, though,
and a copy of MacPrint if you're going to use a DeskJet, LaserJet or non-
Apple printer.  DeskWriter works fine.

>   and lastly where would I go to find
> a fairly priced modem for the ST?

Sorry, I haven't bought one yet.  Most people buy the Supra 2400-baud modem
from Supra Corp, Albany, Oregon.  Supra also sells HD's for the ST.


Check your local dealers, or mail-order houses for the best prices.
Good luck, and have fun with your machine.

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Regards
Ray Depew
HP Colorado IC Division 
rrd@hpfitst1.hp.com