Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!vsi1!zorch!ditka!qiclab!m2xenix!eduardo From: eduardo@m2xenix.psg.com (Eduardo Salom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp Subject: HP3000 Message-ID: <1990Sep30.204919.14895@m2xenix.psg.com> Date: 30 Sep 90 20:49:19 GMT Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon US Lines: 50 >from: eduardo@m2xenix.psg.com (Eduardo Salom) In article mercutio (George Larson) says: > Here's my query... At school we have a poor excuse for a HP 3000 Why a poor excuse? or What's the poor excuse? or both if you like. > "mainframe" system. I argued it was a mini-computer, but, my teacher > persisted it was indeed a mainframe... Anybody know anything about the OLE It's a mini but you said OLE, which HP3000 model do you have there? Doing ShowMe will display a line (the 2nd. one) like this: RELEASE: G.A3.05 MPE V HP32033 G.03.05 VERSION: G.A3.05 this info tells you what MPE version are you using. Send me that line to see how old is your MPE (The HP-3000 operating system). > (REAL, REAL OLD) 3000's? I've figured out how to SJ, and TALK which we > don't have access to, and, how to LISTF @.@.@ to get a total list of > files.. Another thing I "can't" do with my access..I also glimpsed SJ should be an abbreviated UDC command for ShowJob but any users has access to ShowJob and Listf, no special access is needed to use those commands. You can get interactive help with the HELP command. It will you help about the native commands (those that came embedded in the operating system) To see the User Defined Commands, I mean those defined in a UDC, like SJ, TALK, etc) you must use the ShowCatalog command. > something about joint accounts like "Hello George.juniord, Sean.juniord" The Hello command is spelled "Hello [SessionName,] User.Account[,Group]...." The SessionName is optional and could be any name you want use to identify a session (up to 8 alphanumerics), i.e. George. The User.Account is mandatory and now you should know what means. The Group is optional and is used to left you sit in that group instead of your home (default) group. The account is split in subdirectories named groups. > or something like that... The RELEASE command has proven successful at Avoid Releasing files. Any user can purge, modify, replace etc. a Released file. Use an appropiate access matrix. With the AltAccount, AltGroup and AltSec commands you can allow other users to read, write, append, etc. your files. To see you access to files in other accounts do Listf ListDir@.Pub.Sys (depending on your MPE version the ListDir program could be named ListDir2, ListDir5) once you know the program name do Run Listdir?.Pub.Sys, at the > prompt type Help and then use that commands. Remember that a multiuser system is a little more complex that a single user one and, to close, RTFM (Read The Fucking Manuals! just in case you haven't see it before) :-) -- Eduardo J. Salom | eduardo@psg.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!eduardo SoftWare Plus SA | BIX: swp CIS: [73000,74] swp@dci2sp.das.net Larrea 1218 - 2.A | Delphi: swp VMS-Mail: PSI%07222211100717::SWP (1117) Buenos Aires, Argentina |