Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!potel From: potel@Apple.COM (Mike Potel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard Subject: Re: Clarification Message-ID: <45267@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 29 Sep 90 04:22:31 GMT References: <45212@apple.Apple.COM> <139626@kean.ucs.mun.ca> Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA Lines: 61 Since Kevin Calhoun, engineering lead on HC 2.0, is off on a well-deserved vacation, I'll answer these questions about what he reported was said by Mike Holm, HyperCard product manager, on CompuServe Wednesday night. In article <139626@kean.ucs.mun.ca> dgraham@kean.ucs.mun.ca (David Graham) writes: >In article <45212@apple.Apple.COM>, jkc@apple.com (John Kevin Calhoun) writes: > >Ack! now there are *3* configurations?! (bundled, upgrade and standalone) > >This is sounding worse all the time. You mean we may have to shell out >some kind of Big Bucks to Claris to get the development version, even >if we already have HC 1.2? Ack... > >And no orders are being taken yet for the upgrade configuration? And >the configuration of the standalone version hasn't been determined? >Just when are we likely to see these, anyway? > >...the only questions that really matter to me are: > >1. What's in the development configuration as opposed to the >upgrade configuration (i.e., do I need one rather than the other?)? >2. When can I get it? >3. How much is it going to cost me? > >Unfortunately, those seem to be the questions no one can answer. :-( Relax, let me restate what Kevin said: There is only one binary for HC 2.0. It will be the full binary capable of doing everything including scripting. There are several different packagings and ways to get it. BUNDLED with all Mac CPUs starting as soon as we can roll it in will be the full binary, a few stacks, and minimal documentation. You can do full development with this binary, provided you already know how, can figure it out by playing around, buy one of the many HC 2.0 books, or buy the following: If you own HC 1.x, you will be able to UPGRADE to HC 2.0 for $49. You will get the full binary, full stacks, full manuals. The upgrade will be available from Claris as soon as they are ready, the press release seemed to indicate this will be in November, they aren't taking orders yet. If you never owned HC 1.x (= bought your Mac < 1987 and never bought HC 1.x), you can buy the FULL STANDALONE PRODUCT, which is the same thing as above, full binary, full stacks, full manuals, from Claris for some price not yet determined I assume also in November. As Kevin said, this is not an official announcment by Apple or Claris, I deny I said anything. Claris will be giving us all the official scoop shortly, just as soon as they hose down the person who wrote that original press release... By the way, I'm Kevin's boss's boss and I completely support him, Ronny, Binky, Steve, Martin, all the rest of our great HC team, and all the tremendous work they've done. And that most definitely includes all the tireless energy they've put into working the nets and interacting with all of you great developers and users out there. You all made a big difference in helping us produce the very best HC 2.0. Mike Potel Director, SW Eng