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From: ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Clarification
Message-ID: <2864@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM>
Date: 2 Oct 90 22:56:10 GMT
References: <45212@apple.Apple.COM> <139626@kean.ucs.mun.ca> <45267@apple.Apple.COM> <103@aloe.cs.arizona.edu>
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In article <103@aloe.cs.arizona.edu> udi@cs.arizona.edu (Udi Manber) writes:
>In article <45267@apple.Apple.COM>, potel@Apple.COM (Mike Potel) writes:
>> 
>> As Kevin said, this is not an official announcment by Apple or Claris, I deny
>> I said anything.  Claris will be giving us all the official scoop shortly,
>> just as soon as they hose down the person who wrote that original press
>> release...
>
>I am not sure you realize how bad this makes apple management look.
>This fiasco has been going on for more than a week now (at least).
>Someone with authority at apple should have realized
>quickly how serious this is and should have done something about it.
>I fully sympathize with the hypercard team.  They deserve better.
>-- Udi Manber

	Personally I think its a big to do about nothing. Everyone
	that wants Hypercard 2.0 will get it. You get a hacked home
	stack with a new Mac and limited docs, big deal... you still
	have the real thing to do with as you wish. `

	The biggest problems appear to be from those that appear
	to be either illiterate, or just want something to whine 
	about. Everything from the beginning as I read the PR was
	perfectly clear.. I knew what Apple was doing. But everyone
	tries to read between the lines and look what happens...
	Its all Apple's fault... They`re ruining Hypercard, they've
	destroyed the "dream" (and if you thought there was some
	sort of Hyper dream related to all this, yeesh) Come on
	wake up and smell the coffee people... Apple & Claris are
	merely marketing the product differently than before and
	more than likely to the users advantage. Many copies of Hypercard
	bought with Macs never make it out of the shrink wrap, why
	give users everything they need at more expense when in probably
	7-8 out of 10 macs, it hardly gets used... For those that do
	use it, its a valuable tool.... For others its just a box with
	disks they may look at once and that will be it. What the 
	actual percentage of users actually break into Hypercard, the
	above is my "guess". But 25-30% might still be high... But
	the perpetual Apple bashing is getting really old.
-- 
Norm Goodger				SysOp - MacInfo BBS @415-795-8862
3Com Corp.				Co-SysOp FreeSoft RT - GEnie.
Enterprise Systems Division             (I disclaim anything and everything)
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