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From: keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Another C++/MacApp question
Message-ID: <45358@apple.Apple.COM>
Date: 4 Oct 90 05:39:29 GMT
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In article <14100@nissan.megatest.UUCP> sgrae@megatest.UUCP (Steve Graesser) writes:
>Can C++(v3.1b) (MPW C v3.1) be used with MacApp(V2.0) without
>requiring the Object Pascel compiler?
>
>It has been rumored that MPW v3.2 and C++ v3.1 final
>will work with MacApp (v2.0) w/o the Object Pascal compiler.

You can use MacApp 2.0 without the Pascal compiler (or even the
assembler, though some parts of MacApp are in assembly) if you don't
need to create a configuration of MacApp different from the standard
set. I think that if you order the floppy version of MacApp, you get
pre-compiled debug and non-debug libraries. If you order the CD-ROM
version, you get 26 pre-compiled configurations.

You don't nee d to wait for MPW 3.2. You can use the existing MPW 3.1
and C++ compiler.

By the way, I wanted to point out a "deal". Look at the outlay for what
you want:

MPW Shell	$150	(MPW Shell, Tools, and scripts)
MPW C		$150	(C compiler, libraries, and headers)
MPW C++		$175	(comes with C++ and an hourglass)
MacApp 2.0	$275	(comes with CD-ROM and floppy version, 5 manuals)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total		$750


Or, you could go this route:

MPW C Bundle    $400    (comes with MPW Shell and C pacakges, as well
			 as the MPW Assembler, SADE, Macsbug & ResEdit)
MPW C++         $175    (comes with C++ and an hourglass)
MacApp 2.0      $275    (comes with CD-ROM and floppy version, 5 manuals)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total           $850


For just $145 more, you can order an annual subscription to E.T.O
(Essential - Tools - Objects), which includes all of the above, as well
as MPW Pascal, beta versions of MPW (3.2), SADE (1.2), Macsbug (6.2),
ResEdit (2.0), as well as experimental MacApp tools (like CRC Cards and
tear-off menus with floating windows), and 411 - Inside Macs I-V in MPW
accessible form.  Also included is all of the Developer Essentials,
which includes SpInside Mac (the stack version of Inside Mac),
Macintosh Technotes, Macintosh DTS Sample Code, Q & A stack, electronic
copies of "develop" - our technical magazine, every version of our
System Disks and HyperCard ever made, etc. Full documentation for all
of the above is also provided. The annual subscription gets you 4
issues of E.T.O. a year in CD-ROM format, guaranteeing that you are
never more than 3 months out of date with what we have here at Apple.
If you already have some of the pieces I listed above, you don't have
to pay the full $995; you just pay for the difference. After you have
all the parts, annual subscription is $300.  Contact APDA for details.

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