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From: scott@NIC.GAC.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next
Subject: A plea for a Structured Objective-C code browser in 2.0
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Date: 27 Sep 90 19:58:17 GMT
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chase@boulder.Colorado.EDU (A. Chase Turner) writes:
   I rate NeXT's gdb and Edit at the very bottom.

[Lot's of complaints about NeXT development deleted ]

I agree 100%.  I doubt it will be in 2.0 - everytime I've asked about it
(going on about a year, now), whoever I asked sort of says that they
feel that's not their job.

Bull.  They got us a compiler, a debugger, an editer.  Get us a _real_
debugger.  gdb running under X is not what I want, either.  Something
very professional would be nice.  I used to like Logitech's M2 run-time
debugger, and I've heard they've done much better with their latest
(can't remember the name - I've been fully weaned of PCs, thankfully).

OK, now to do something about it.  I want a debugger.  You want a
debugger.  There's one in the third-party catalog, but who knows how
good (or bad) that is?  What we need is a cheap debugger.

Who'd be interested in one?  ShareWare?  How deep is your interest
(as in "how deeply can you reach for a good debugger")?  A _good_
debugger would be hard, probably much harder than a wimpy terminal
emulator, though I guess speed wouldn't be nearly the constraint
that Stuart's speed was.  I'm _almost_ willing, but don't need to
throw 400 hours after nothing . . . . though I _do_ need a debugger.

scott hess
scott@gac.edu
Independant NeXT Developer	(Stuart and new Terminal)
NeXT Campus Consultant		(Not much, really)
GAC Undergrad			(Horrid.  Simply Horrid.  I mean the work!)