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From: paul@surf.sics.bu.oz (Paul Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: A plea for a Structured Objective-C code browser in 2.0
Summary: Also disappointed in the NeXT editor/compiler/debugger link.
Message-ID: <1315@surf.sics.bu.oz>
Date: 1 Oct 90 21:58:57 GMT
References: <27092@boulder.Colorado.EDU> <1990Sep29.170939.14728@santra.uucp>
Organization: School of Info. & Comp. Sci., Bond University, Australia
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In article <1990Sep29.170939.14728@santra.uucp>, jmunkki@hila.hut.fi (Juri Munkki) writes:
> In article <1990Sep28.213826.4709@midway.uchicago.edu> scott@sage.uchicago.edu (Scott Deerwester) writes:
> >Granted, I didn't use Edit -- don't much like it --
> >and I interfaced to gdb from gnumacs, but hey, that was supposed to be
> >the idea, wasn't it?  

That wasn't my idea.  I never imagined that a machine as advanced as the
NeXT, one that emphasized the interface, would have a programming environ
as antiquated as Emacs.  I had assumed that when I left the mainframe world
in 1979 I had kissed emacs goodbye forever.

> This decides it for me. I no longer want to develop software for the NeXT.
> I know this is a religious issue, but I absolutely refuse to use Emacs.
> It doesn't work the way I do and I don't think I'm going to change the
> way I work or take the time to reprogram Emacs to do what I want.
> 
> As long as Emacs is considered the only realistic programming tool and
> interface, I will not get myself a NeXT. If Symantec ever releases a
> Think C compiler for the NeXT, I will reconsider the point, since I
> like the NeXT hardware and most of the ideas in the user interface and
> system software.

I feel the same disappointment in the compiler/debugger/editor link.  I
have been using THINK C 4 and THINK Pascal 3 on the Mac; and I would like
an editor that has scroll bars, mouse selections AND a compiler interface 
AND a debugger interface.  I am not willing to trade the first two for the
last; and so will survive with Edit I suppose.  Too bad.

On the other hand, I am CRAZY about the Interface Builder and also like
the ability to execute code from GDB, something THINK would not do.  What
about an object browser?  Have I missed something or is that missing too?

paul

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