Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!know!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!math.lsa.umich.edu!math.lsa.umich.edu!emv From: emv@math.lsa.umich.edu (Edward Vielmetti) Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml Subject: Re: Reading List on SGML (in SGML) Message-ID: Date: 28 Sep 90 23:43:35 GMT References: Sender: usenet@math.lsa.umich.edu Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept., Ann Arbor MI. Lines: 29 In-Reply-To: spqr@ecs.soton.ac.uk's message of 28 Sep 90 12:43:19 GMT In article spqr@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) writes: I have castigated Lou in private before, but I can't resist a public dig at the `holier than thou' TEI guidelines, which fails to do something as elementary as separating out the journal volume, number and pages. and doesn't even get the journal title correct! Yeah, I noticed that too -- the "DTD fragment for citation" that he used looked pretty weak in comparison with what you'd need for a full-blown standard bibliographic citation which you'd want to have some hope of doing any typesetting with. This came up in the context of the (as of yet only proposed) comp.bibliography discussion. There is an appropriately ugly ANSI standard format for bibliographies, which is rich enough to encompass all (most?) of the information various perverse journal formats need. Software like Pro-Cite (from PBS Inc.) I think uses the ANSI bibliography format as its internal representation for bibliographic entries. It would seem to be sensible to ask if there is an extant SGML encoding and DTD which follows the ANSI standard (probably Z39.something, I don't have the exact citation). You'd hate to have to type it directly, of course... --Ed Edward Vielmetti, U of Michigan math dept whose first job at the U was parsing bibliographies with SNOBOL, ugh