Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!lll-winken!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!phil From: phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.text.tex Subject: Re: No accented characters Message-ID: <1048100005@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 1 Oct 90 03:34:00 GMT Lines: 39 Nf-ID: #R:<9009291501.AA02718@lilac.berkel:-39:ux1.cso.uiuc.edu:1048100005:000:1837 Nf-From: ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!phil Sep 30 22:34:00 1990 I read and hear these things: 1. Scalable fonts are bad, particularly for small fonts, because the proportions do need to change somewhat with actual size for proper readability. 2. Umlauts (and quite likely others) are more than just mere letters with "things" stuck on them. Solving these problems is not easy either. Treating umlauts like accented letters is not the best way to go, but it does solve the immediate problem which is a total lack of such characters in the American character sets. However, because this approach has solved some other problems as well, I do not want to see it go away until ALL of the problems it solves are solved by other means. Umlauts for Americans is just one of them. One of the reasons I like TeX is that it allows me to typeset text in the Esperanto language as well as many others. The approach of treating these letters as accented letters made it possible (albeit not perfect) to have these letters without someone having to create the fonts for them AND TO MAKE SURE IT IS DONE FOR ALL LANGUAGES. Of course it is not yet even close to perfect. Cyrillic is missing. And languages like Arabic, Japanese, Hindu, Georgian, etc., cannot yet be typeset. A lot of work is due. When the work is done, however, just be sure not to removed the facility that exists now until you can prove that the work is absolutely complete. This is not likely for quite some time. Now if you have some scalable PostScript fonts for ALL the possible letter shapes in all the languages whose alphabets is based on the Roman alphabet, then I am interested. If it omits one or two languages, the value of it is diminished very greatly. --Phil Howard, KA9WGN-- | Individual CHOICE is fundamental to a free society | no matter what the particular issue is all about.