Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!samsung!dali.cs.montana.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!hpfcso!hpldola!paul From: paul@hpldola.HP.COM (Paul Bame) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Electronic Car Brakes Message-ID: <10960036@hpldola.HP.COM> Date: 25 Sep 90 16:13:45 GMT References: <8581@ncar.ucar.edu> Organization: HP Elec. Design Div. -ColoSpgs Lines: 32 > / hpldola:sci.electronics / stebbins@sisler.ucr.edu (john stebbins) / 10:12 pm Sep 23, 1990 / > In article <8581@ncar.ucar.edu>, cook@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Forrest Cook) writes: > |> > |>>[lots of interesting stuff about electric cars and relative efficiencies] [deleted] > |> . > |> How about electric car designs that brake by using the motor to charge back > |> into the batteries? Such a system could probably save several tens > of percents > |> in efficiency, especially for city drivers. [deleted] > There are a couple of problems you didn't address. First is batteries > charge slower by a factor of 10 or more than they discharge. Second > is that most people break much faster than they accelerate. This compounds > the first problem. I haven't calculated the amount of energy that is > involved here so this may be absurd, but I was thinking that a whopping big > capacitor may take care of part of this problem and have the side > benifit of giving you more readily available energy for your next > acceleration. The phisical size of such a capacitor may be larger than > the proposed vehicle for all I know. Its just a thought. > John Stebbins > stebbins@ucrmath.ucr.edu > ---------- Some experimental city busses use flywheel energy storage and supposedly use regenerative braking to great advantage. I can't remember references but it seems like probably a Popular Science article several years ago. -Paul "Spice is the Variety of Life" paul@hpldola.hp.com N0KCL