Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!ooc.uva.nl!ropg From: ropg@ooc.uva.nl (Rop Gonggrijp) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: credit-card encoding (was Re: Wiegand wires?) Message-ID: <13937@slice.ooc.uva.nl> Date: 3 Oct 90 18:33:07 GMT References: <1990Sep25.153854.2812@zoo.toronto.edu> <34388@cup.portal.com> Organization: uvabick Lines: 27 wrf@mab.ecse.rpi.edu (Wm Randolph Franklin) writes: >There was a story a year or two ago about people being convicted of >counterfeiting BART tickets. How could this be detected since the >individual tickets aren't serial numbered, are they? What difference is >there between a ticket that BART added $10 to, and a copy of such a >ticket? I know one of the people convicted of all that (he did the technology) and this is his story: This is Bill Squire and I will say you are right. Yes we took old five cent tickets and put $7.95 in "virtual cash" on them, and then put them in an add- fare machine, added a nickel and got a BART issued eight dollar ticket--total cost: ten cents. It was only when my friend (who was a minor at the time) got involved with "free" donuts at the "safe hollidays program" ran by the BART cops that a cop set us up to "make money" with $32 tickets printed on blanks. Note that the cops created the crime! Oh ain't that America!!! Send any replies to Bill through me..... -- Rop Gonggrijp (ropg@ooc.uva.nl) is also editor of Hack-Tic (hack/phreak mag.) quote: "We don't care about freedom of the mind, | Postbus 22953 (in DUTCH) freedom of signature will do just fine" | 1100 DL AMSTERDAM Any opinions in this posting are wasted on you | tel: +31 20 6001480