Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: rbeville%tekig5.pen.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET (Robert E Beville) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: WWII Submarine Navigation and Attack Terminology (LOOONNNG) Summary: Sub term, subs and other military sites to visit... Message-ID: <1990Oct2.235303.23748@cbnews.att.com> Date: 2 Oct 90 23:53:03 GMT References: <1990Sep24.002015.24721@cbnews.att.com> <1990Sep27.031817.7980@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military-request@att.att.com Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or. Lines: 67 Approved: military@att.att.com From: Robert E Beville There is nothing like putting the terminology with the physical hardware... The next time you're in Honolulu, visit the Submarine Museum... It is next door to the Arizona Memorial Visitors Center. It has the USS Bowfin docked there for boarding... the deck above the forward and aft torpedoe room have been 'butchered' to allow steps for the visitors, and you carry a radio receiver 'stick' with you to listen to the narrative about each compartment. On shore the exhibit building has displays/models from the beginning of subs up thru SSBNs... has all the WW2 sub battle flags, logs, news and memorabilia of many of the battle accounts. ... has instruments, torpedo firing consoles, nuclear missile firing consoles, etc.... some Japanese and German submarine artifacts... On the grounds are some sections of subs: the con tower + periscopes, an intact 2-man Japanese sub/torpedo, ack-ack gun from the deck of U.S. ship, and sit on a real torpedo near the snack bar/gift shop. This museum is maintained by an association of members, unlike the Arizona Memorial(by USN and Parks Dept). The museum is a very good treatment and an honor to the Silent Service. You can take your time through it, too, unlike the press of visitors for the Arizona. Now that you've been to the Arizona Memorial and The USS Bowfin, re-board city bus #20 and return to Waikiki... get out at Fort DeRussy (the movie location for "From Here to Eternity") and visit Battery Randolph. This battery, facing Waikiki Beach, is in great condition compared to the batteries at Fort Stevens, OR. and the treatment of the attack on Pearl Harbor is exhaustive... photos, models, hardware, full size displays, souvernirs... US and Japanese tanks out- doors, gift shop; rest of museum treats Korean and VN era. One room is devoted to Medal of Honor winners from among the Pacific Islands... You are not done yet... now rent a Moped bike and head for Diamond Head... not the geological feature... THE FORTRESS!!! Carry a flashlight-- you need it going through the halls and tunnels to the gun emplacements-- there's no light in most... Quite a few steps and walls to scale if you REALLY want to visit the place... On the way to the Polynesan Cultural Center, the bus driver/ tour guide will point out the remote radar installation that noticed the incoming Pearl Harbor attack force... In Honolulu harbor there is a visitors attraction of a ride in a real submarine... not like the controlled & tethered Neptune thing at Disneyland. Sorta like a glass-bottomed boat that submerges, for viewing the sealife, corals and a guy in a scuba suit feeding fish... Sorry I strayed off the sub terminolgy heading -- but when you're there... just do it! that's -OWARI- from GLOWWORM-7-9-4 best regards, rbeville@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM Bob Beville, Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR 97077