Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!plains!tsmith@uunet.UU.NET From: plains!tsmith@uunet.UU.NET (Timothy Lyle Smith) Newsgroups: sci.virtual-worlds Subject: Re: Who says what to whom (was Re: VR Protocols.) Message-ID: <8511@milton.u.washington.edu> Date: 2 Oct 90 16:45:51 GMT References: <7801@milto <8204@milton.u.washington.edu> <8370@milton.u.washington Sender: hlab@milton.u.washington.edu Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo Lines: 42 Approved: hitl@hardy.u.washington.edu In article <8370@milton.u.washington.edu> wex@dali.PWS.BULL.COM (Buckaroo Banzai ) writes: >far. But on the other hand, it's extremely hard to ignore, as Meredith >Bricken put it, the fact that we're wired for up/down, forward/backward >one-step-at-a-time. It's some of the most deeply learned behaviors and >relationships we have to the world. That's why I agree with the assertion >that you can't train a cybernaut, you're going to have to breed one. > Sorry about the deleted text but our mailer has this new line count check which can make things difficult. I am going to have to disagree with both you and Mr. Bricken. Have you ever tried to learn how to play a drum set? A friend of mine recently tried to teach me how to play one and I found out how difficult it can be to remember that 3 comes after 2. The process involved starting with hitting the cymbol(spelling?) while counting out load. This then moved on to hitting the snare drum on even beats and then hitting the bass drum on odd beats all the while counting out load. I couldn't handle all the different activities at once, this was driven home by the many times that I got to the count of 2 and stoped because I did not remember what came after 2. As I practiced it I was able to continue for multiple counts of 4. With enough practice I would have been able to do even better. This only points out that with pratice it is possible for at least 2 people to learn how to in a more than one-step-at-a-time world. It is possible that we are just more capable than others or it may be that it is easier to exist in a one- step-at-a-time world so that we don't create actions which require more steps needing to be done in parallel. Those actions which do require coordination of multiple events at the same time are actions which do not happen in the day to day life of most people. IMHO, I think that we can deal with as many different events as we have ways of providing controlling devices for those events. By controlling devices I mean those devices which are directly or indirectly connected to us, fingers, toes, feet, and etc. -- Tim Smith Minard 300 UUCP: ...!uunet!plains!tsmith North Dakota State University, BITNET: tsmith@plains.bitnet Fargo, ND 58105 INTERNET: tsmith@plains.NoDak.edu