Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero!cs.duke.edu From: cel@cs.duke.edu (Christopher Emery Lane) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Is there a definition of Feminism? Message-ID: <654526686@romeo.cs.duke.edu> Date: 28 Sep 90 12:58:08 GMT References: <9009181556.aa17125@ICS.UCI.EDU> <926@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> Sender: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C. Lines: 34 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R ed falk said: The rad-fem subculture I hung out with had developed such a complicated set of rules of behavior, known as "politically correct", that I got sick of the whole scene and refuse to be labeled feminist any more. ---- I say: bell hooks suggests that one should not "be" a feminist, but one should "advocate" feminism. This is what I generally say. A labelling scheme that has "feminists" and "non-feminists" is inherently non-inclusive, i.e. hierarchical (that's bad;-) ). There are many experiences that might make one not wish to be called feminist (like ed's experience), but who really cares. The important thing is the ideas and actions and people that people support or oppose. How about: feminism is a movement that attacks the idea of hierarchy in the guise of gender. It affirms the fundamental value and connectedness of all humans (or living beings?) and seeks a way of life that is in greater harmony with our human nature than the current setup. "Seek not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee." Pleasure shared is pleasure increased; pain shared is pain diminished. etc., etc. Chris Lane -- "Life's a bitch and then you die." cel@cs.duke.edu Down with Gender! Enjoy today.