Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!jarthur!ucivax!gateway From: regard@hpsdde.hp.COM (Adrienne Regard) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Feminism's ill effects on men? Message-ID: <1990Oct04.155651.27377@sdd.hp.com> Date: 4 Oct 90 20:27:18 GMT References: <9009122207.AA10780@houston.cs.columbia.edu> <653402616@lear.cs.duke.edu> <7094@darkstar.ucsc.edu> <17595@oolong.la.locus.com> <87443@aerospace.AERO.ORG> Reply-To: Adrienne Regard Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Lines: 24 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: blanche.ics.uci.edu In article <87443@aerospace.AERO.ORG> uunet!hombre!mydog!gcf (Gordon Fitch) writes: > (a thoughtful posting answering in part the question:) >Does feminism oppress men? > >For example, let us say that, in 1955, 95% of all engineers were >male, but in 1985, 65% were male, and that this change took >place entirely as a result of feminist agitation. Were those >males who wished to be engineers, but were pushed aside by the >women making up the 35%, oppressed? Of course. In a more Extend that: Were those males who didn't wish to be engineers, whose wives are now engineers, oppressed? The benefits women have reaped because of their agitation don't devolve merely to those women. Their families benefit, their loved ones' benefit. I would maintain that the country as a whole benefits. That's not much of a consolation to the poor fellow who wanted to be an engineer and got competed out of the position. But perhaps he goes home to his med-school girlfriend for comfort. Or places a collect call to his lawyer mom. You know, people who can sympathise with his struggle, advise and support him. Cuts both ways. Adrienne Regard