Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!usc!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: correll@brahms.udel.edu (Sharon J Correll) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: I'd say that is has more to do with knowing God Spiritually Message-ID: Date: 3 Oct 90 07:16:17 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 38 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article davidh@tektronix.tek.com (David L Hatcher) writes: > > Something that keeps going around and around in my head is my wondering > how I can get the Christians here to explain what they are experiencing > as they reach past the historical Jesus and onward towards the more > spiritual aspect of where God is know through Christ. After all, > everyone here keeps saying that the only way to God is throuth Jesus > Christ. Yet no one here talks much about God as if they actually > know Him by personal experience. Where's the proof of all of these claims? I've been thinking some about your question about personal experiences with God, and I have a couple of thoughts. First of all, there is no way for me to PROVE that I have had an experience with God. I can talk about my experiences, but a person who wanted to write it all off could do so and probably would. There is something about talking about my relationship with God in order to PROVE something that just goes against the grain. Maybe that's true for other people too, and that's why there hasn't been a lot of that sort of posting in here. Second, I just don't think you can separate the historical Jesus and the spiritual Jesus. They are the same person. If you reject the record of Jesus as he was on earth, then it's just not the same Jesus that I worship. I guess what I'm saying here is that the objective and the subjective have to go hand in hand. Believing a lot of facts is not enough; Christianity needs to be experiential. But pointing to an experience and putting all your stock in that opens the door to self-deception and/or Satanic deception. My experience and the Word of God must go hand in hand. -- ---\ Sharon Correll \--------------- ----\ University of Delaware \-------------- -----\ Academic Computing and Instructional Technology \------------- ------\ correll@sun.acs.udel.edu \------------