Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!psuvax1!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: dinl!schallen@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Eric Schallenmueller) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: God doesn't make things hard on us - we do. Message-ID: Date: 4 Oct 90 03:26:47 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Martin Marietta I&CS, Denver CO. Lines: 84 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu >Right on! Your comments to me seem well-founded on sound doctrine. We >really do make it hard on ourselves. You sound like a straight-line >Christian who makes no arguments and just loves Jesus. >The impression I get from reading this net is that there are very few >fellows like you (and me), but lots of Mormons and New-Agers who happen >to be at a point in their 'voyage' as to say nice controversial things >about who Jesus is to them. Do you get the same impression? >Let me know, I'd like to hear from others like yourself more often. We >seem to be rare types. >Eric >P.S. Have you read books like "The Mormon Papers" by H.L. Ropp >or "Evidence That Demands a Verdict" by Josh McDowell? Who in the world would write this garbage!?!? Me! I didn't intend to have it broadcast to the entire net. This morning I got a mail message chewing me out for being a pompous self-righteous idiot and couldn't figure out why. Then I saw my post which I had thought had gone to Tim Hoogasian. I have been hitting 'r' after reading posts that I agreed with and responded with positive encouragement to those who appeared to have similar faiths to mine. In other newsgroups, my response has gone straight to the sender. Apparently that is not the case with this one. The moderator got it and for some reason decidced it was to him (or her) and thought all should read my post. Since I have already offended one person, I shall apologize to all, since I no doubt offended many. I offer no defense other than this net software seems really whacked out and I apparently don't understand it. My question now is: what has been happening to my responses? Is the moderaotr getting them and forwarding them? Throwing them away? Also, where do I post to (address)? I have tried postnews and it says the group is moderated, sends it to the moderator and declares that it has been posted successfully!!! I have gotten them back as undeliverable and don't know why. Regarding my stance toward Mormons and New-Agers: I have no problem with either of these groups as I meet the induviduals. I DO have a problem with an organization referred to as The Church of Jesus Christ, Latter Day Saints headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah. I spent 2-3 hours a week for 12 weeks with some missionaries listening to their doctrine and couldn't believe some of the things they had to say. They always started with sound doctrine and seemed to twist it. Most of what I heard has been repeated in this newsgroup. As far as New-Age, I have many friends who are in this group. The way I see it, they are being deceived by folks such as Shirley McClain and John Denver who are cleaning up at the bank because of their well-intended efforts. As far as rebuttles, I certainly expect people to defend themselves and things as touchy as beleifs. I don't expect anyone to respond to this post. If you do, please respond directly to me we can chat 1to1. This net is full of enough postings without me getting involved and I'd much rather monitor and respond individually than blab a lot and pretend to be all-knowing and educated. Regarding my note from a unitarian: I try to be a humble person. Yes, I am an arrogant person and occassionally it shows up in my writings. I pray that I will be more humble, and this posting has definately helped humble me. However, I do beleive I have just cause to be arrogant: MY GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD!! LIC Eric Schallenmuller "There is not enough evidence [within and surrounding the Bible] to force a man into the Kingdom who will not go. However, there is more than sufficient evidence to bring someone in who is open to eveidence." Pascal, French Philosopher [Postings are sent with the original author intact in the From field, so if your news software is doing the right thing, a reply should go to the original author, and a followup should be posted, which results in it going to me. Anything that comes to the submission address (christian@cs.rutgers.edu or a couple of other Rutgers machines) looks to me like a submission. Sometimes things are obviously personal, in which case I'll either pass them on to the apparent addressee, or ask what was meant. Maybe I should have done that with this one, but it's not unusual to have postings that address another party to the current discussion. --clh]