Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!ohstpy!miavx1!miamiu!jahayes From: JAHAYES@MIAMIU.BITNET (Josh Hayes) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: Social organization and speciation (For Alan Rogers) Message-ID: <90284.101952JAHAYES@MIAMIU.BITNET> Date: 11 Oct 90 15:19:52 GMT References: <3315.2710dbfa@cc.helsinki.fi> Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service Lines: 16 I am not a primatologist (actually, I'm a marine biologist; a bit of a stretch, no?), but I recall reading in a couple of animal behavior seminars from my grad student days that most primates that exist in structured social groups have sex-specific dispersal patterns, that is, that males disperse from such groups whereas females do not. The group "lineage", then, is not isolated from gene flow from other groups as males imm/em-igrate from/to groups. Speciation would be impossible in the face of continued gene flow. Somebody more knowledgeable than I please insert some information about patterns of dispersal among current social primates..... Josh Hayes, Zoology Department, Miami University, Oxford OH 45056 voice: 513-529-1679 fax: 513-529-6900 jahayes@miamiu.bitnet, or jahayes@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu I'm back, I'm back! I've been to ancient Greece -- I have proof, look at this grape!