Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!rutgers!njin!princeton!phoenix!eliot From: eliot@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Eliot Handelman) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: semiotics Message-ID: <3185@idunno.Princeton.EDU> Date: 7 Oct 90 21:48:51 GMT References: <1990Oct1.195848.27252@riacs.edu> <24980001@hpopd.HP.COM> <1990Oct7.191106.24276@math.lsa.umich.edu> Sender: news@idunno.Princeton.EDU Organization: Shitson University, New Crapsey Lines: 16 In article <1990Oct7.191106.24276@math.lsa.umich.edu> jjewett@math.lsa.umich.edu (Jim Jewett) writes: ;In article <24980001@hpopd.HP.COM>, richardh@hpopd.HP.COM (Richard ;Hancock) writes: ;|> You might find semiotics (the theory of signs) interesting - meaning exists ;|> only through "common consent", ie. by the existence of a common ;signification ;|> function by which signifieds are associated with signifiers. ; ;How does this function become common? How can two agents (eg people) ;first establish that they have a common consent with which to establish ;further communications? ; ;Or is this asking whence sprang the first chicken? That's what Derrida says, and that's why "there is nothing beyond the text."