Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!decwrl!shelby!neon!Neon!jmc From: jmc@Gang-of-Four.usenet (John McCarthy) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Put in some effort (was: emergent properties) Message-ID: Date: 8 Oct 90 12:02:06 GMT References: <15132@venera.isi.edu> <18070001@hp-ses.SDE.HP.COM> <3145@bruce.cs.monash.OZ.AU> <13080@cs.utexas.edu> Sender: news@Neon.Stanford.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: /u/jmc/.organization Lines: 7 In-Reply-To: turpin@cs.utexas.edu's message of 1 Oct 90 22:37:58 GMT I never said that a thermostat "comprehends what it means to be hot". I said that the thermostat "believes the room to be too hot", or rather that the thermostat can usefully be ascribed that belief. Comprehending what it means to be hot is a far more complex property than believing the room to be too hot on particular occasions, and artificial systems that can usefully be ascribed the former don't (so far as I know) exist today.