Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!hayes.fai.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: kentrox!ktxc5!brent@uunet.uu.net (Brent Capps) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Supervision / Call Forwarding No Answer Message-ID: <13049@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 4 Oct 90 19:00:27 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 44 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 713, Message 2 of 11 In article <12985@accuvax.nwu.edu>, kabra437@pallas.athenanet.com (Ken Abrams) writes: >>[stuff about call transfer feature encountering a busy signal] > Are you really sure it works this way? Is a PBX involved? The rule > used to be (and STILL should be) that CFDA (call forwarding-don't > answer) should only be sent to a number in the SAME SWITCH. The > reason for this is the concern you expressed about the confusing > progress of the call and the posibility of the supervision getting > fouled up as the call is passed to another switch. [Moderator states that Ameritech call transfer is not confined to the same CO, LATA or even area code] When the CF feature is datafilled for a particular line on a Northern PBX/Centrex CO (and this probably holds true for AT&T equipment as well), the craftsperson has the option of blocking the second leg of the call from being extended along a trunk. The reason for this has nothing to do with supervision difficulty. It has to do with preventing Joe Blow from forwarding his work phone at SchmuckCo Industries to Grandma's number in Ulan Bator, then going home and dialling his work number, causing the call to be forwarded to Grandma's number while Joe only gets charged for a local call (SchmuckCo Industries eats the rest of it, because the forwarding party pays for the second leg). The same thing goes for the 3WC feature. Supervision is not 'passed along' to the next switch; instead the CF software on SchmuckCo Industries' PBX or Centrex CO determines that it needs to hold the first leg while originating the second leg to Grandma's number in Ulan Bator. When she answers, both legs of the call are condensed onto a three-port conference bridge. The PBX or Centrex CO continues to monitor the connection for billing purposes; when it sees a disconnect from either party it tears down the call. By the way, international calls can be selectively blocked by 3WC/CF as well. Brent Capps uunet: ...!kentrox!brent Kentrox Ind., Inc. pstn: (503) 643-1681 x325 Portland, OR "insert standard disclaimer here"