Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!decwrl!hayes.fai.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: forrette@cory.berkeley.edu (Steve Forrette) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: COCOT-in-Violation Label File Message-ID: <13111@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 5 Oct 90 20:47:03 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 44 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 717, Message 12 of 13 The concern raised by several people regarding the possible affect on public safety caused by the use of these stickers brings up another issue -- the public safety affect of COCOTs in general. As most people who have COCOT experience will tell you, often you will approach a COCOT, and it will be out of order. Totally out of order. You pick up the handset, and there's no dialtone. Or, there is dialtone, but you can't use it, because it's "local" dialtone, and when the phone goes offhook (from the CO's point of view) to place your call, the line is dead. Very very rarely have I ever seen this the case with a Pacific Bell payphone. Now what if there's an emergency? You go offhook to dial 911, and the phone is comletely dead! Now, keep in mind, that before the advent of COCOTs, it's likely that there was a *real* payphone at this location that always worked. COCOTs weren't just added to previosly-vacant locations, but (in the words of a famous Digest contributor) there has been a "wholesale replacement" of Bell payphones. Ones that were always working to serve you in case of emergency. So, isn't the current state of affairs in COCOTery a public safety issue? Anybody that's cocerned about the amount of damage a few Digesters can cause with stickers should be for the total ban of COCOTs they are today, because of the affect on public safety. Or, perhaps, a tariff clause which states that each COCOT operator must see to it that their fleet of payphones maintain the same percentage of "uptime" that Bell payphones have, or lose the right to be in the payphone business? Hey, maybe this is something we could get our representatives and the law enforcement community fired up about. [Moderator's Note: I did not mention it at the time, but this was my thinking about COCOTS in response to the various messages saying that covering the coin slot posed a potential safety issue. In theory, perhaps yes, but in actual practice COCOTS are most unreliable anyway. Here in Chicago, a lot of them (most of them?) are maintained in dreadful condition; the owners seem to milk them as long as they can then either abandon them or sometimes install a new one. A sticker covering the coin slot is the least of the problems with most. PAT]