Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!watmsg!mhcoffin From: mhcoffin@watmsg.uwaterloo.ca (Michael Coffin) Newsgroups: comp.editors Subject: Re: minimum vi command set, was: Wanted: Easy, Full-screen Editor Message-ID: <1990Oct9.125246.14689@watmath.waterloo.edu> Date: 9 Oct 90 12:52:46 GMT References: <1990Oct4.153022.13721@news.iastate.edu> <1846@calmasd.Prime.COM> <1990Oct9.013103.18799@mthvax.cs.miami.edu> Sender: daemon@watmath.waterloo.edu (Owner of Many System Processes) Distribution: na Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 16 I'd reconsider emacs. Create a version with almost all the funky keys bound to no-op. All you really need are the cursor keys, backspace, and delete. A few years ago I tried to teach a computer-shy person to use vi. It was a disaster. The biggest problem was the multiple modes---she continually typed commands into the buffer, or text as commands. After a week or so, in desperation, I introduced her to emacs. She immediately started typing. Five minutes later she asked me if there was a way to delete whole words, or something like that. I told her how. A little while later she hit a wrong key and got in the minibuffer; I had to tell her about ctrl-g. Finally, half an hour later I told her how to exit. Her comment was This is easy! Why did you try to make me use that AWFUL vi? -mike