Xref: utzoo rec.music.synth:16454 comp.music:1962 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!nih-csl!lhc!mimsy!haven!ames!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!rutgers!att!cbnewsc!tjr From: tjr@cbnewsc.att.com (thomas.j.roberts) Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music Subject: Re: MIDI protocol and ISDN network Message-ID: <1990Oct5.144334.1196@cbnewsc.att.com> Date: 5 Oct 90 14:43:34 GMT References: <2637@ttardis.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 42 From article <2637@ttardis.UUCP>, by rlw@ttardis.UUCP (Ron Wilson): > In article <2707b24b.3dd1@petunia.CalPoly.EDU>, sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman) writes: >> [...] Sooooo, does anyone have any info on how >>MIDI and ISDN may someday work together? How does ISDN accomodate MIDI? > [...] > The MIDI standard is a 2 layer specifation: The physical transmission, and the > data protocol itself. > > As far as ISDN, OSI, TCP/IP, SNA, and other communication protocols suites are > concerned, the MIDI data protocol is "just another application protocol" - ie, > ISDN et al will treat the MIDI messages as data. [...] BUT, and that is a very BIG BUT, MIDI is inherently a real-time protocol - the time between messages is preserved to very high accuracy. ISDN is not a real-time protocol, and will not preserve the time between messages (buffering can occur at any node - I am assuming packet-switched data on ISDN). ISDN can also introduce excessively large delays (compared to typical MIDI implementations). If you consider ISDN circuit-switched data, then ISDN is essentially acting only as a physical layer, which could preserve the real-time nature of MIDI data, except for overall delay (which is inherent in the typically wide-area implementation of ISDN - a typical ISDN connection between two phones in the same room is routed to a telephone office several miles away). Typical delays for packet-switched ISDN data are 100 milliseconds (one way, both terminals in the same room), much too large for an integrated MIDI performance. Also, ISDN is a NETWORK ACCESS protocol only, MIDI is essentially a network protocol. What this means in practice is that the performance of MIDI systems is pretty much the same (from a network standpoint). The performance of different ISDN systems varies a lot. ISDN is intended for wide-area networking; its typical use is from building to building, to across the country. MIDI is intended for localized performance. I have trouble imagining a nationwide MIDI performance. As a user of both ISDN and MIDI, I seriously doubt that anyone will ever implement a network interface product to connect them. Tom Roberts att!ihlpl!tjrob