Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!know!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu!sugar!ficc!peter From: peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: A Super(cilious)Nova Keywords: hackers phreaks pirates cu semantics Message-ID: Date: 7 Oct 90 19:41:28 GMT References: <188@netsys.NETSYS.COM> <191@netsys.NETSYS.COM> Reply-To: peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) Organization: Xenix Support, FICC Lines: 36 In article <191@netsys.NETSYS.COM> len@netsys.NETSYS.COM (Len Rose) writes: > In a previous article, Peter da Silva stands up and thumps his chest: > >*Which* hacker community? The hacker community *I* am part of has nothing > >to do with: [ The computer underground, Breaking into systems, Pirating software, Phreaking, etc...] > Right Peter.. I bet you never gave someone a piece of software before.. Guilty. > I suppose you never,ever shared a piece of code with a colleague or an > associate.. Now that's an odd accusation. Sharing code is a great way to share the load of developing software. There are whole newsgroups that are full of nothing *but* such shared code... some of it mine. I even ran one for a while. > If you really knew the "hacker community" you claim to belong to, you > would know that most of them have done at least 2 of the above at some time > in the past. Probably so. Oh ye who is without sin and all that. But that's not what hacking used to be *about*. The artists have been pushed aside by the explorers, etc., etc,. etc.... [sermon about creativity deleted] Look, Len, I know you're pissed at being railroaded. I would be, too. But how about reading what I wrote instead of what you want me to have written? That's more of the "us versus them" mentality that motivated the suits at AT&T, you know. > However, I cannot abide by self righteous hypocrisy. Oh ye who is without sin... -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' +1 713 274 5180. 'U` peter@ferranti.com