Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!apple!portal!cup.portal.com!thad From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Subject: Re: Seagate spin up problem Message-ID: <34683@cup.portal.com> Date: 9 Oct 90 09:45:52 GMT References: <1990Oct05.211042.8671@ecst.csuchico.edu> <480@cbmger.UUCP> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 28 peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) in <480@cbmger.UUCP> writes: Hmm, just an idea that came to me: How about mounting the drive on its side or if this doesn't help, on the other side? I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) the parking area is in the middle, so the lubricant can only get there when the drive is lying flat in the case. Or am I totally wrong??? Please see my other post today re: mounting orientation of Seagate drives. As for the lubricant migrating to the park area only when the drive is "flat", these chemicals are "wicked" and don't behave in an intuitive manner. The materials have to be examined at the molecular level and that means chemistry and physics almost approaching the art of voodoo and black magic! :-) Per my lengthy postings on this subject last year, the proprietary chemicals are closely-guarded secrets of each HD mfg. company and the chemicals almost seem to have a life of their own. Microscopic observation shows them forming nearly mono-molecular layering, and examination of a drive with stiction shows the characteristic "white worms" effect of too much lube; the chemicals are not thixotropic but are, instead, viciously viscous. Perhaps someday I'll write a mag article on this subject since I do have all the details and photos, but I'm still a bit miffed by the outright plagiarism of my net-articles from this newsgroup (appearing in one Amiga-related mag); another lesson learned. Sigh. :-( Thad Floryan [ thad@cup.portal.com (OR) ..!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!thad ]