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From: toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
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Subject: Re: Startup from Hard Drive?
Keywords: HD, startup, seagate, DMA, etc
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Date: 9 Oct 90 01:08:46 GMT
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pmgannon@athena.mit.edu (Patrick Gannon) writes:

>The floppy system does see the hard drive.  In fact, the terminal
>program I am running now is *on* the hard drive.  I just re-formattedthe
>drive, and I have the same problems.  First, I format the drive using
>the utility included with the SCSI card.  Second, I install all of the
>drivers from the SCSI utility disk to the hard disk, resulting in a
>system folder showing up in the 1st partition of the hard disk.  Third,
>I copy basic.launcher, basic.sytem, icons, and prodos from the system
>floppy by clicking and dragging from within the finder.  Fourth, I set
>the boot slot to 7 (the HD slot) and restart.  It begins to load, but at
>some point while the red line is getting longer on the startup screen,
>it dies and I get:  Fatal System Error 0308 (I wrote it down this time).

Here's your problem: Installing the drivers from the SCSI utilities disk ONLY
puts the drivers and some O/S patches into the system folder. It does NOT give
you a complete system that is ready to run.

If you installed the SCSI HD on the floppy system with the Installer on the
SCSI utilities disk that came with the card, then you should be able to boot
the floppy system and drag the entire contents of your system disk to the
hard drive. However, the Apple Recommended procedure at this point is:

1. Boot the floppy system that can see the HD.
2. Launch the Installer on the /System.Tools disk.
3. Install "Latest System Files" onto your hard drive. At this point the drive
	has a usable system folder and support files but it still needs a SCSI
	driver that works with the high speed SCSI card properly. The "SCSI HD"
	on the /System.Tools installer is no good for this.
4. Quit and Launch the Installer from the SCSI utilities disk.
5. Install "SCSI HD" onto the hard drive.

Boot the hard drive and enjoy. The above 5 steps are what I did. No problems
for over a month.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu