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From: bill@mwca.UUCP (Bill Sheppard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: NeoDesk 3.01
Summary: Additional observations
Message-ID: <1720@mwca.UUCP>
Date: 9 Oct 90 16:52:34 GMT
References: <1684@uvm-gen.UUCP>
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Santa Clara, CA
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In article <1684@uvm-gen.UUCP> pegram@uvm-gen.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) writes:
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>	I just got my copy of NeoDesk 3.01 this weekend...
>I had no luck converting my old Neodeskm.inf file...

Me neither. Perhaps a bug (feature?) slipped through?

>Gemini's (Venus' actually 8-) two icon sizes and ... would be nice...

I agree. However, Neodesk's Icon Editor is _very_ full featured, and you
can create smaller icons to give you more room on the desktop. Also, the
editor can read .RSC files as well as .NIC files for grabbing new icons.

Other observations: The manual (~140 pages for the non-upgrade version)
states that if an alternate text file reader is used Neodesk won't unload
itself from memory when calling the reader. However, I chose Quick View
(from Quick Tools) as my file reader but Neodesk still unloads itself
before executing it. Also, the environment from Neodesk is not recognized
by Quick CLI/Quick Env, and vice versa. I've still been unable to get
Quick Tools to autoload an environment upon booting...shouldn't the TOS
environment be accessible by all programs?

Another nice feature is that most/all operations can be performed on
windows which aren't on top - GEM won't allow resizing, backing up a
level, or closing a window which isn't on top, but Neodesk will allow
any action to be performed as long as the button/file/folder is visible.

Neodesk only uses up 35K when executing other programs, which is a very
small price to pay - Gemini gobbles ~200K, plus generally requires that
GDOS be resident.

All in all, a _very_ nice package.

>Bob Pegram

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