Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!orc!inews!iwarp.intel.com!gargoyle!chinet!henry From: henry@chinet.chi.il.us (Henry C. Schmitt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard Subject: HC 2.0, My first impression Summary: Not Impressed! Keywords: HyperCard 2.0 Message-ID: <1990Oct10.031404.13263@chinet.chi.il.us> Date: 10 Oct 90 03:14:04 GMT Organization: Chinet - Chicago Public Access UNIX Lines: 51 Let's start this off with a caveat: I'm working with the HyperCard 2.0 8/31/90 release as sent to Users' Groups (I don't know if there are any other versions), so I only have 5 disks, no manuals. After playing around for an hour or so, I think Apple has managed to get a large amount of egg on its face. In other word, I'm NOT impressed. I start by popping in the HyperCard Program disk; it has an Installer Script on it. Cool, I don't have to worry about dragging everything. I double-click and get the infamous "Application is busy or missing" dialog. Not Cool! An Installer Script, but NO Installer. Now I have to dig around and find my latest System Tools disk. Five minutes later I find the Safe Place (tm) in which I put it. I dump Installer onto my hard disk and double-click the script again. It starts up, tells me it's going to install HyperCard 2.0 and then offers to put it on my SyQuest removable. I hit the Switch Disk button and am informed that I can't install on the locked master disk (I kinda expected that), and then I'm informed that I can't install on my hard disk because Installer is running from it. If that's the way it wants to be, fine. I quit the Installer and drag it to my SyQuest and try again from there. Now I can't install anywhere because the hard disk is my startup disk, and you can't install on the startup disk either. I understand why these restrictions are necessary for installing System Software, but HyperCard?? So I start again running from my hard disk and install on my SyQuest. It runs through the 5 disks (I installed everything) and I quit. Next I notice that it's installed a System Folder with a System file in it on the SyQuest. I don't remember asking it to do that! Into the trash it goes. Next I move HC onto my hard disk. I double-click HyperCard and am immediately informed that "HyperCard needs more memory to run at this color setting" (I run at 256 normally). I check it out and find it's only got 1000K, so I up it to 2048K and try again. No go. So I up it to 4096, more that enough I think. Still no go! So I try 16 colors. Nope. How about 4 colors? Nope. You mean I need more than 4 Megs of memory to run HC in other than Black & White? Apparently. So I run in black & white. After I go through the Tour Stack, I try out the Puzzle. When I finish the puzzle, I get a scripting error! If this is what Apple is sending to it's Users' Groups, I think they'd better find a hole to hide in! -- H3nry C. Schmitt | CompuServe: 72275,1456 (Rarely) | GEnie: H.Schmitt (Occasionally) Royal Inn of Yoruba | UUCP: Henry@chinet.chi.il.us (Best Bet)