Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!munnari.oz.au!csc.anu.oz.au!pfr654 From: pfr654@csc.anu.oz.au Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: UNIX is yuck (was Re: Next intro...) Message-ID: <1990Oct8.091751.3053@csc.anu.oz.au> Date: 7 Oct 90 23:17:49 GMT References: <4737@crash.cts.com> <2867@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> <1990Oct6.172357.18366@smsc.sony.com> Organization: Computer Services, Australian National University Lines: 42 In article <1990Oct6.172357.18366@smsc.sony.com>, dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott) writes: > In article <2867@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger) writes: >> >> Where is it that Apple and NeXT are in any serious >> competition with each other? (In ego perhaps) but >> Joe Average is not going to run out and buy a Unix >> box. If you think they are, Why can't you buy a Sun >> or other Unix box at the local computer store? (outside Xenix) > > Could it have anything to do with price? Because of various design > decisions, Unix machines require more memory and disk space than > Macs and PCs running MS-DOS, and do better in systems that can > support virtual memory. Two years ago, memory was selling for > $250 per meg (not listing, *selling*), hard disks were physically > large for less space and cost twice as much as now, and VM micros > were just starting to drop in price. > > I am a long time Mac user and have just recently had to learn some UNIX for a Decstation 3100. IT IS HORRIBLE! UNIX is an ancient operating system! Invented in the time of dinasour computers with less power than a Mac Plus!! It may have some multitasking/virtual memory features that the MacOS does not have at present, but when the Mac gets there it will blow UNIX away! I know that UNIX can be made to do just about anything, and that Apple's A/UX can now run 32 bit clean Mac programs in a Mac-like manner, BUT if you are forever putting nice front ends onto an OS why not start at the start and have a nice OS (from the user's point of view anyway)? I know that if I had $10k to spend on a personal system, I would buy a high-end Mac; $20k and I MIGHT be persuaded to get A/UX as well. *====*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* Phil Ryan ANU Department of Physics and Theoretical Physics Canberra, Australia pfr654@csc.anu.oz.au phone:(61 6) 249 4678 fax:(61 6) 249 0741