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From: jeff@ics.uci.edu (Jeffrey Gordon Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Will Mac's go the way of Apple II's
Message-ID: <271374CB.7761@ics.uci.edu>
Date: 10 Oct 90 19:21:47 GMT
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wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:

| Hey, Mac-dudes!  You all should be rallying behind the Apple II and
| complaining about Apple's failure to support it.  Why?  Because if Apple
| will do what it is doing to its namesake, it will do the same thing to
| the Mac in five years or so.

[silly mode on -- apologies to BIFF]

ARE Y0U IMPLUYING THAT THE APPLE ][
IS DYING?  NEVER!!!  I STILL HAVE AN
ORIGINAL APPLE ][ WITH 4K OF MEMORY
AND 8 DIFFERENT CARDS AND A FAN TO
KEEP IT FROM BLOWING UP AND IT RUNS
JUST FINE AND IF APPLE WANT TO KILL
IT OFF WELL THATS JUST ST00PID BECAUSE
ITS THE K00LIST COMPUTER IN THE WHOL
WIDE WORLD!!!!!!!!

*****APPLE ][ F0REVER!!!*****

WELL I KNOW THAT APPLE WON'T LET THE
][ DIE EVEN THO THEY PUT ALL THAT
MONEY INTO THE ][GS AND IT SUCKS
GREEN DONKEY EGGS CUZ ITS JUST LIKE
A MAC AND MACS SUK.  MY COMPUTER'S
BETTER CUZ IT HAS A THRREE DIGIT
SERIAL NUMBER AND 64K AND I CAN RUN
APLEWORKS 1.2 AND PLAY CHOPLIFTER
BETTER THAN ANY OF YOU WIZZYWIG
PANSIES!!  APPLE ][ RULES 4EVER!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[end silly mode]

| Think about it.  Don't believe me?

Oh, sure, I believe you.  I believe that as the old technology becomes
obsolete, Apple will (eventually) stop supporting it.

Personally, I would have welcomed the death of the Apple II with open
arms and a smile five years ago (when I was at StyleWare trying to 
program the little f--kers).  The only reason it hasn't died is that
Apple doesn't have enough sense (or ability?) to put reasonably priced
Macs in the k-12 market.  But rather than just killing it off, they 
produced the IIgs, which (at the time) was the biggest waste of silicon
since the PC Jr.

| Well, any of you Mac +/SE owners feel like you're being properly supported?
| Can you upgrade to color?  Is Macintosh Inc. moving towards the Mac II and
| forgetting its roots?  Hmm.  MacClassic, not withstanding, sounds like it.

"Forgetting its roots"?  What about the Apple I?  Why isn't Woz churning out
wooden breifcases by the millions?

As for your question, yes, of course you can upgrade.  All you have to do
is plop down your computer and a credit card and say "please upgrade me
to an SE/30".  Or sell your old computer and buy a new one.  It's really
not that hard.  After all, you did buy your old one, didn't you?

| Also, Macintoshes keep going through different models.  Is there an upgrade
| policy?  Can a Mac IIci become a Mac IIfx?  Why not?

That's easy!  The IIfx motherboard won't fit in a IIci box!  (duh....)

| How long until Apple starts ignoring 68020 users?

Oh, I'd guess about four years.

| You get the point, of course.  If we can't trust 'em, can you?  Hell, no.
| You're as good as f**ked now.

If you insist on hanging on to obsolete machines, yeah, you ARE fucked.
If you bought your computer to do a job, and it did it, why should you
CARE if you can't upgrade it?  It still works.  If you bought your
computer because it was the next biggest-and-best-hot-new-thing from
Apple, and were pissed off when a three months later it was obsolete,
that's your problem, not Apple's.  If your six-year old computer breaks
down, and you can't get it fixed because no one carries parts that old
any more, I hope you got your money's worth in those sixe years.

Computers don't last forever.  Unfortunately, their users do.

[Followups to either alt.flame, alt.religion.computers, or talk.stupid]




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