Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!rice!rice!sun-spots-request From: fredc@umrisca.isc.umr.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun Subject: Re: Price of comparable high-end PC vs. Sun SLC Keywords: Hardware Message-ID: <1990Oct7.221451.25527@rice.edu> Date: 7 Oct 90 21:30:00 GMT Sender: sun-spots-request@rice.edu Organization: Sun-Spots Lines: 25 Approved: Sun-Spots@rice.edu Originator: spots@walhalla.rice.edu X-Sun-Spots-Digest: Volume 9, Issue 328, message 4 X-Refs: Original: v9n302, Replies: v9n307 In article <1990Sep4.232304.16861@rice.edu> oliveau@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Oliveau) writes: >Apparently you can hook up around 20 SLC's to a single disk (or SLC >server) and not see significant performance degredation depending on what >you do - this of course was from a Sun salesman! I saw a system set up like this (DACNet at the Design Automation Conference), and it was trash! The reason: when you are running Open Windows, an 8M SLC will thrash memory. Put twenty of those running swap off the same disk and you have a disaster. If you run any windowing system at all, anything with a local disk for swap will outperform a diskless node with the same amount of real memory, unless that amount happens to be large enough to avoid swapping altogether. I have found that I tend to use up whatever real memory is there by enhancing my basic layout, so I'll never have enough real memory to do that :-) An aside: Sun was there in force at DAC, knew about the mess called DACNet, yet they made no attempts to remedy the problem. I thought that such negligence shows a remarkable arrogance, not unlike another 3-letter company we all love to hate. Fred Clauss INTERNET: fredc@isc.umr.edu (preferred) Intelligent Systems Center or fredc@umree.ee.umr.edu University of Missouri UUNET: {occrsh|sunarch}!umree!fredc Rolla, MO 65401 BITNET: S081192@UMRVMA