Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!bu.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!rice!rice!sun-spots-request From: cjp%megatek.UUCP@ucsd.edu (Christopher J. Pikus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun Subject: Re: How do SCSI drives in the 3/160 tower communicate? Keywords: Hardware Message-ID: <1990Oct7.220035.23378@rice.edu> Date: 7 Oct 90 21:30:00 GMT Sender: sun-spots-request@rice.edu Organization: Sun-Spots Lines: 39 Approved: Sun-Spots@rice.edu Originator: spots@walhalla.rice.edu X-Sun-Spots-Digest: Volume 9, Issue 325, message 2 From article <1990Sep12.175832.11438@rice.edu>, by AKONSTAM@TRINITY.BITNET (AARON KONSTAM): > I have a question about disk connections to theSCSI bus in a 3/160, and I > assume other Suns with towers. Our 3/160 has two Micropolis 1355 internal > disks in its tower together with an Emulex controller to control them. We > also have a WREN VI drive in a shoebox connected directly to the SCSI > board in the tower with a ribbon cable. > > According to the block diagrams that I have seen for the 3/160 the SCSI > board should be connected to the VME bus (and it is through three edge > connectors) and the Emulex controller in the tower should be connected > between the SCSI board and the disk drives. I can find no conections on > the SCSI bus except the edge connectors to the VME bus and the ribbon > cable to the shoebox. > > How are the the Micropolis 1355 which are supposed to be SCSI disk drives > getting control signals from the SCSI bus? I will have to admit the > machine works with out my understanding this but if someone could clear up > this mystery I would appreciate it. > This is a very common question asked in this group. (perhaps someone should collect all these answers and post them monthly. :-) The SCSI cable connection to the "VME bus" is not really directly to the bus. On slot 7 of the sun motherboard, the "P2" connector on the back has the extended pins for a connector. In the VME spec, the outer 2 rows of the P2 conector is left for OEM defined functions. On the Sun they are left unconnected on slots 7, 8, and 9. If you look in your 3/160 card cage, you will see a card in slot 7. THis is the SCSI controller. It outputs its SCSI control signals on the outer 2 rows of the P2 connector which go to the Emulex ESDI bridge controller (and the external shoebos). To prove this hypothesis, move the SCSI controller from slot 7 to another slot and watch it not work. :-) Be Seeing You ... Christopher J. Pikus, Megatek Corp. INTERNET: cjp@megatek.uucp San Diego, CA UUCP: ...!uunet!megatek!cjp