Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!bbs!ddsw1!nvk From: nvk@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Norman Kohn) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: Re: Cheap or free auto-shutdown setup (was: Reliability Sys V file sys) Summary: You can't prepare for every contingency Message-ID: <1990Oct06.220304.17547@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Date: 6 Oct 90 22:03:04 GMT References: <1990Sep29.220137.6550@intek01.uucp-> <1030@bilver.UUCP> <257@bongo.UUCP> <80@comix.UUCP> Reply-To: nvk@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Norman Kohn) Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Wheeling, IL Lines: 27 In article <80@comix.UUCP> jeffl@comix.UUCP (Jeff Liebermann) writes: >> [discussion of automatic detection of powerfailure and unattended >> shutdown]... >Close. I think most users have a rather odd illusion that the UPS is >a generic fix for most AC power related problems. The implimentations >for shutdown previously mentioned only work under ideal conditions. >Last year, Santa Cruz survived an earthquake. We learned a few new >lessons about computer reliability. My conclusion is that the UPS >is only useful for MINOR power line disturbances. > [recent earthquake and the associated power surges and fluctuations > killed systems regardless of UPS backup] OK, so we can't count on our UPS's to protect us against THE BIG ONE. Meanwhile, we need to take care of mundane, everyday things like downed lines, the janitor tripping on the cord, or (here in Chicago) Commonwealth Edison's inability to keep the power up reliably. It's certainly true, however, that the power can do bad things besides dropping off line. The systems that run off the battery full-time instead of tripping an inverter when the line voltage drops should give better protection, but take their toll in cost, noise, and size. As for sprinkler damage (not to mention theft): there's a reason why people recommend storing a set of tapes off-site. -- Norman Kohn | ...ddsw1!nvk Chicago, Il. | days/ans svc: (312) 650-6840 | eves: (312) 373-0564