Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: pepke@ds1.scri.fsu.EDU (Eric Pepke) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Feminism's ill effects on men? Message-ID: <974@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> Date: 5 Oct 90 15:43:02 GMT References: <9009122207.AA10780@houston.cs.columbia.edu> Organization: Florida State University, but I don't speak for them. Lines: 18 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu In article <1990Oct04.155651.27377@sdd.hp.com> Adrienne Regard writes: >That's not much of a consolation to the poor fellow who wanted to be >an engineer and got competed out of the position. Well, if he just got competed out of the position, that's just tough. If the reason the competition is higher is because women's role has changed, that's just tough. Actually, no matter what the reason for the increased competition, it's still just tough. However, if the reason he didn't get the position is because somebody has fixed the game, as a result of some sort of idea of compensation for some sort of perception of statistics, so that he cannot win in spite of his being able to compete, that's not just tough, it's sexist and basically wrong. It is wrong whether it is part of some 50's plan to keep women out of industry or part of some 90's plan to compensate, in some indefinable statistician-inspired way, for some 50's plan. -EMP