Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!uunet!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!mit-eddie!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!news.funet.fi!hydra!hylka!aalto From: aalto@cc.helsinki.fi Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: Average Fitness, Evolution of Sex and Others Message-ID: <3377.271d7139@cc.helsinki.fi> Date: 18 Oct 90 09:09:13 GMT References: <3347.2719f222@cc.helsinki.fi> <1910@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov> Organization: University of Helsinki Lines: 15 In article <1910@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov>, toms@fcs260c2.ncifcrf.gov (Tom Schneider) writes: > My second objection is that if fitness is the time geometric mean, then > highly successful animals like the dinosaur and (yes) humans AND ALMOST > ALL SPECIES have zero fitness, since most species die off eventually! > It is not meaningful to speak about the fitness of a species. Only about the fitness of an individual, genotype or a gene and only within a population. A brilliant analysis of the problems of the concept of fitness is given by Richard Dawkins in the chapter 'An Agony in Five Fits' in the book 'The Extended Phenotype'. Erkki Aalto University of Helsinki Finland