Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!know!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!wdl1.wdl.fac.com!wdl1!mikeb From: mikeb@wdl31.wdl.fac.com (Michael H Bender) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Testing for machine consciousness Message-ID: Date: 16 Oct 90 20:36:35 GMT References: <3499@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> <1990Oct4.154655.23004@canon.co.uk> <7@tdatirv.UUCP> <1990Oct8.120927.8648@canon.co.uk> <21@tdatirv.UUCP> <1990Oct12.074325.688@canon.co.uk> <31@tdatirv.UUCP> Sender: root@wdl1.wdl.fac.com (SUPER USER) Organization: Ford Aerospace, Western Development Laboratories Lines: 17 In-Reply-To: sarima@tdatirv.UUCP's message of 14 Oct 90 16:04:52 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: wdl31 In article <31@tdatirv.UUCP> sarima@tdatirv.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) writes: >>In short, I think the distinction you are making between 'machine' >>and 'human' is largely artificial, it is based on a false >>The distinction is in our minds.. ;-) Exactly my point. Since the distinction is in our minds any argument based on it is also only in our minds, and nature is not constrained to agree with us. Thus the arguments against the possibility of constructing an intelligence are flawed. Likewise, the arguments "proving" the possibility of constructing consciousness are equally flawed! (By the way -- how can we build something we can't even define?) Mike Bender