Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!olivea!mintaka!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!news.funet.fi!funic!nic!vinsci From: vinsci@soft.fi (Leonard Norrgard) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: emergent properties Message-ID: Date: 18 Oct 90 21:49:45 GMT References: <1990Sep29.213139.2876@watdragon.waterloo.edu> <3499@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> <1990Oct4.154655.23004@canon.co.uk> Sender: vinsci@nic.funet.fi (Leonard Norrgard) Organization: Soft Service, Inc. Lines: 8 In-Reply-To: rjf@canon.co.uk's message of 4 Oct 90 15:46:55 GMT Your wrote: >[...] >Seriously, though (and maybe I should say that I haven't looked at >comp.ai in a couple of years), what could ever be sufficient evidence >for machine consciousness? How about first finding evidence that other humans are conscious? When you have that, apply it to machines. (Hint: #1 is a little bit troublesome.)